PROGRESS at last on Ruluff/Rufus Andrus/Andrews/Andress
16 May 2009 - 6:52:00am

I have been very interested in a Jeheil who is located in Rutland Vermont for Ruluff/Rufus (Rufus comes from the 1800 Census) father or grandfather as he appears to be the only person left that we have not located DNA information on who was in Vermont early enough to be Ruluff/Rufus father. I know you have heard that Ruluff/Rufus was born in Hartford Connecticut well that was reported to be what Milo said in a conference address, I have never seen the actual quote. What if Milo said My fathers family is from Hartford Connecticut my mother was born in Rutland Vermont. Or just the families are from those places. He reportedly went on to say that his grandfather served in the rev war and his father in the war of 1812. All these things would be true of Jehile's family other than Ruluff/Rufus was born in Connecticut.

The church research department was active from the 1920's to 1966 they did peoples family history for them and reported to the family research for them, their files are available at the family history library or from the Vault. I recently stumbled onto them and ordered the Andrus files in. There are files for Amy Walker Andrus , Newton L Andrus, Sarah Simmons...(Munday Line), Milo Jr. George B. Andrus, Elizabeth Ritchie... (Miles Line) and I am not through the files which are quite extensive. I know I am the first person to locate these files as they were still stored at the vault and once a person has looked at them they stay at the library.
If you want to know what research your family has done the temple work done, who preformed it, and why they thought what they thought this is a wonderful resource. THIS IS NOT A RESOURCE FOR CURRENT INFORMATION!!!


There was a theory sent to Elizabeth Ritchie where in it was purposed that Jehile was the grandfather with John his son being the father of Ruluf/Rufus, Jehiel's wife Sarah was to old to be Ruluff/Rufus' mother it was dismissed because it would not make Ruluff/Rufus born in Connecticut. Well when I started this project one of the first things I decided was that Almon (much older than Ruluf )and Harriett (who stayed home and helped her father at the hotel until the 1840's) both say in the 1880 census that Ruluff/Rufus was born in Vermont.

The first time we see the family of Jehiel in Rutland, Vermont was in October of 1773 when the church was formed Rutland began settlement in 1770 but the big influx was in 1773 the church was formed 6 months to late to show Ruluff/Rufus' birth. He may have been born on the way to Rutland but in Vermont so did not receive the credit for being the first white child born in Rutland. Ruluff fell through the cracks of history as his family was on the move at the time he was born if this is his family.

John Andrews would only have been 21 so the research department was a little worried that he was to young to be Ruluff's father so they went to the 1791 census of Rutland Vermont John is listed along with Jehiel (father) and Ebenezer(Brother) as being in Rutland. John has 3 males in the family over 16 showing presumably that he had sons old enough to be Ruluf. They could also be farm hands we do not get a great deal of information from this census but it would rule Ruluff out as being John's son and did not.

Our next step is to get one or more subjects to test for DNA from this line there is a youngest son of John named Jehiel who settled in Huron County, Ohio this could be Ruluff's brother. I have been in contact with a researcher named Henry Timmin in Huron County to see if he can locate the sample needed, he has worked for the family on this problem since the 1960's and is excited about the possibility of finally proving the line back on Ruluff. If this is Ruluff's family we will tie back to the original settlement of Hartford Connecticut and from there into England. AT LONG LAST PROGRESS!!! Please wait for the DNA prof before adding this to your pedigree charts!

My upcoming trip to Warwickshire and London
24 April 2008 - 6:01:17pm

Dear Family, in May I am going on a trip with my daughter to Europe. I am going over a little early in order to do research on the Jane Munday and Elizabeth and Ann Brooks lines. Our research on the wife lines in the past has been as good as we could do with the Parish register and the Bishop's transcripts that the LDS church filmed. These records have little other than names and dates and no relationships outside of so and so is the son of so and so at birth. In many country's you get it at marriage and death which cements the families together. But in England it is hard to cement these families with only these records and so we have been guessing as to the link to the next generation. So, in preparation for this trip (I will only have four days to spend on research) I thought I should know where our research stands on these lines and the documentation that was used, so I have been locating the records available at the Family History Center in Salt Lake and getting copies of the documents, then linking these records to my website so I will not waste time in England looking at what we already have or could find locally.

De Lane Andrus Hyer (De Lane's Email is: familyroot@gmail.com) and I have located two wills on the Brooks lines that we are confident take us back another 2 generations on the male line there. In the will for Ann's father is listed where Ann and Elizabeth were living in London in 1846, we have located this on a map about 3 miles from the London Bridge and I expect to be able to get pictures of the area. More on this research will be coming in the next Family News Letter.

On the Lancaster and Munday lines I have done a lot of verifying and according to the original documents there are many corrections that I am making to this line, it will be nice to have the original documents connected to the website so that anyone can go and look at the original documents to see that I have or have not made a mistake. I am not infallible myself especially with the volume of documentation that we have on this line.(web page: gedview.rulufandazuba.org ) I do have much of this documentation located and on the web page at this writing on April 24, 2008, and hope to have much more shortly. I did research on the Essex line in Barston Parish using the records contained in the Parish Chest, a source only available if the Parish Father will open it. The LDS church was able to film the Barston Parish Chest because it was in much better shape than most of them with an index to the collection typed and everything cataloged. Unfortunately most of the Parish Chests we need to view will have to be done on location in England. What this has shown me is that my four days research in England will only be a drop in the bucket. At some time we need to go back and do some real research trips.
However I am reluctant to schedule these research trips as the Milo Andrus family organization's research funds are so limited. My husband and I have donating our time and effort many times and found ourselves in the position of needing to make up the difference between the donated moneys and the actual cost of these trips. This becomes a little expensive for us! To date our personal donations have been in the range of $5,000. This money has been run through the family organization in order to get the tax benefits and ends up making it look like a lot more funds have been collected than what has actually come in to the family organization.

The Andrus Family Organization is in need of research help in the form of time and money in order for family projects to be continued in a timely manner. Some major funding like an endowment or contributions made to the Andrus family research fund is greatly needed. Money for this cause could be left in wills or through trusts but we need between $100,000-$200,000.00 or more so that the interest alone would fund the family organization into the future. If only 1% of the family would match our donation of $5,000 this amount could easily be met and funding would not be an issue. In the past I have stayed out of the money plea side of things but I can see that if we want to accomplish the work needed:
* All of the wife lines
* Milo-Ruluf -and beyond
* Azuba-John and beyond
We need to be able to fund the efforts of more researchers. For example, the records we need on our English (Webster, Munday, Ann and Elizabeth Brooks line) are in England and not at the library in Salt Lake. Prices to do research are not going down in the U.S. but in English research it is getting more expensive fast as the dollar goes down. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Please send your donations to the Andrus Family Organization treasurer:
Don Andrus 540 West Kim Dr, Brigham City, Utah.

Now, if your purpose for family research is not part of your religious beliefs you can stop reading as I am going to relate a personal spiritual experience! Twenty years ago as I was feeling overwhelmed by the amount of research I personally needed to do and was thinking of quitting; the Lord gave me a glimpse into the importance of the work in which I was engaged by showing me my greeting in the afterlife by the persons I had accomplished work for in this life, their joy and gratitude was beyond description. It gave me the will to continue as I want that vision to be fulfilled and I am working towards that goal on a daily basis. I know how overwhelming it seems to get involved; but, if each of us contributes what we can, be it time, money or both; we will be able to greet our ancestors at deaths door with a feeling of satisfaction that we did what we could to help them. Thank you for joining us in this worthy cause.

What Laura Thinks about Links past Ruluf and Azuba
20 March 2008 - 11:14:16pm

Dear Everett,

I hope you don't mind that I have written my answers interspersed with your letter. I think it gives me a good forum to explain what is going on and help people see what our Cal Andrus is doing and help others not to get lost in his files. If you want I will take your name out and put another in for privacy reasons. Let me know! Laura

Ps Thanks for all your research!! It is nice to see that others are interested in our family.

This is a letter received by Laura Anderson March 14, 2008 from Mr. Strumbaugh who is related to Milo's sister Lucina. I am interposing what I think and the state of the Andrus research in the letter I hope this will document the different Theories and help others to not spend time on these presuming them to be proved when in fact they are often not even well thought out theories to begin with. I hope this helps! Laura


Dear Mrs. Anderson,
My name is Mr. Stumbaugh. As you can see by the enclosures, Milo Andrus is my GGG uncle. I am descended from his younger sister, Lucina Andrus and her husband, Orlan Abbott.


First let me say that I am not a genealogist nor a researcher, although I was trained in research methods by professional historians. I am just a long-retired History teacher who has always been curious about who his ancestors were. I have been looking for the last seven years. At first I had help from my granddaughter who was 14 at the time. Fascinating how the kids pick up the technologies so rapidly.
I told her to pull up Family Search and punch in Azubah Smith, Born in Vermont in 1777. She did and we kept clicking and it kept going, and going and going, Of course we were following Azubah Gunn's line, I was sidetracked on this for several years, and then I read where you said GGGGrandmohnter Azubah is NOT descended from James Smith and Azubah Gunn. Back to the Drawing Board.
Laura
This theory was based on the fact that the people researching it thought Azubah was such an unusual name that when they found it, it had to be our line. Unfortunately Azubah is not that uncommon in that day, the Samuel Smith line already has an Azubah who died and one who lived and had a family, they lived in Connecticut not Vermont and our Azubah has a known for sure sister (Milo did LDS ordinance work for a “cousin” who is Uriah and Polly (Smith) Hancock son Polly was named Polly or Mary (interchangeable like Dick and Richard)who does not fit in the Samuel Smith family. Also when I first started looking at this line, I noticed that they were in the middle of the Rev. War when Our Azubah was born so could they have been driven to Vermont. Well historically this doesn't work as the Battle of Bennington (the turning point of the war with Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain boys is taking place in Vermont and women and children are running away to safety not coming from Connecticut So for several reasons Samuel Smith and Azubah June are not our line..
Recently I read with a great deal of interest your endeavors to locate Ruluf's ancestors in Vermont last fall. Then I found Calvin N. Andrus “History of Ruluf Andruss; which I think you did the research on. I not only did not do any research he is using my name to try to give credence to wholly unproved genealogical information where he takes our known people and inserts them into known families or creates unknown families for them to be part of.. Anyway you and Calvin said that Ruluf had a half-sister named Sarah Andrus. I pulled her up and found that her father's name was Joseph Andrews (from Cal's work) and her mother's name is Jerusha. This as far as I know is only true in Cal's “research” There is a researcher on the Thoms line who has been in contact with me several times and introduced me to Sarah as a possible sister and she thinks that, as we come from the same area in Vermont, end up moving to different areas in New York but after Sarah's husband dies in New York she moves to live with her son in the same place as Oran Andrus, Milo's Brother is living she is a POSSIBLE sister or other relative there is not proof she is a half sister. My friend who is doing the in depth research does not know who Sarah's parents are nor do we. But Cal has linked them up to give his theory credence.
Mr S.
I then got out the Ricker Compilation of Vital Records of Early Connecticut and found that Joseph Andrus, born in Wallingford on April 6, 1748, parents were named Jacob and Ruth, that turned out to be Jacob Andrews and Ruth Ford. The rest comes straight out of Family Search.org. Look, Laura, If you have found all of this, as I suspect you already have, ignore the above: If you haven't you take credit for putting it together and don't mention my name to anybody.
Laura
Credit or no credit I would love to put parents on the line of Ruluf's family but I want them proved. This line is far from that! I do not think we will prove anything until we get the DNA of the Family that we match. We have ruled out with DNA Two family's already and have results on one more and have two left in Vermont to rule out before we leave Vermont behind.
Why Vermont and not Connecticut as many have been told? Almond and Harriett two of Milo's siblings say in the 1880 Census Ruluf was born in Vermont. Milo and Lucina in the 1880 census say that he was born in Connecticut, both Milo and Lucina left home young where as Almon and Harriett lived with or near their father until the time he died, also Almon was 14 years older so would have remembered his grandparents in Vermont. Traffic between Essex County New York and Rutland County Vermont was not uncommon as they were just across a waterway from each other.
Mr. S
Oh yes – The The Ricker Compilation says that Sybil/Sibbel Andrew was Mrs. Sybil Andrews when she died in Cheshire, New Haven Connecticut on Aug 15, 1789. Those New England Puritans told it like it was.
Laura
There was a Sybil Andrews who was buried in New Haven Connecticut who had a son Ruluf. However, I have not located anyone who traveled in those circles who ever moved to Vermont, New York, or Ohio where we were. The thought was that Ruluf was such an unusual name that it had to be our Ruluf. However, there are a lot of Ruluf's running around new england in that day even several by the last name of Andrus/Andrews/Andress. The more likley link to a Ruluf is that of Ruluf Dutcher who is in Poultney in 1761 that is early enough for Our Ruluf to be named after him. This theory was purposed as early as 1950's but no one has ever relay checked it out. It is on my long to do list. Any volunteers???
The other reason that the family got off on the Amos Andrews line was that the mother in the guardian bond theory was Sybil and Ruluf named his first daughter Sybil and that “proved” it to the researcher. Unfortunately the first thing that should be done if you are going to prove a theory by naming practices is to check the family around and see if they are using naming practices. This step was omitted and when I looked at the families this was not the case. Perhaps I should tell you about naming practices. In some regions (Holland I think) you can for sure identify a family by the first boy is named for the father's father and the first girl is named for the mother's mother. The second boy is named for the mother's father and the second girl is named for the mother's father. It always works that way you know if you have the correct family based on this formula. So if the people in New England are not doing this what they name their children becomes coincidence and you can not document a family this way.
Mr S.
One other thing – you'll notice that Joseph Andrews and Sybil Andrews were 3rd cousins. Engsin Samuel Andrews and Elizabeth Peck were the G-Grandparents of both of them.
Laura
If that could be proved we could locate a descendant from anyone descended from either line to rule out this possibility. This could be very useful as we go forward. Could you help with a search for a descendant?
And someone still needs to be doing research in Vermont for Azuba's mother's ancestors. I know that Azubah had a younger sister namaed Mary (Polly)who married Uriah Hancock. We know this because Milo did LDS ordinance work for a Smith Hancock who he said was his cousin and that makes this couple related.
Mr S.
I Pulled her up and it says that her parents were John Smith and Sarah Prentice. If John and Sarah were married about 1760 in Rutland Center or Mount Holly, Rutland County, Vermont, then there should be Prentices somewhere in the area. I do believe that John Smith and Sarah where Azubah's parents as Milo did LDS baptisms for his grandfather John Smith and grandmother Sarah Smith in the Missouri River or Nauvoo temple. I have the document to prove that far. One problem with the theory that it was John Smith and Sarah Prentice is that Uriah Hancock a son in law goes to Essex County and Squates on the land later in the Mallory grant in Jay Essex County it is now the Wilmington area(1822). (see Google Maps for Fox Farm Road This is the area of the land in question). In New York Uriah Handcock and Mr. Buckley squat on the land in 1794. Later they obtain title to the land and apparently later sell it to John Smith and Ruluf Andrus. This John Smith probably the father or possibly a brother later bails Ruluf out of Jail with his ??son /brother James. James if I remember correctly lives in 1800 in Granville near Uriah and Polly and in 1810 near Azubah. So we may have 3 or 4 siblings in the John and Sarah Smith family. John later looses his land in a Sheriff's sale. According to this theory John Smith and Sarah Prentice live and die in Rutland, Rutland County Vermont. Cal has added our siblings Azubah and Mary into this family and it is out on the net and there is no calling it back, however I am not even sure that the original family holds water as I have a book put out by the Rutland Historical Society where they document all the families that they know of in Rutland, Rutland County Vermont. John and Sarah Prentice are not in the book even with their other children. There are Prentiss listings for C harles, Laura Patty,
“Samuel Sarah (wife of Thomas) and Thomas G. No one married to a John Smith. I don't know how Our John and Sarah are these persons. More research needs to be done on this. By the way when Oran Andrus Milo's brother sells his hotel in 1844 in East Norwalk Ohio, he reserves one acre for a John Smith home. I have wondered who this John Smith is, an Uncle???
Mr. S
Lastly, if I have the right John Smith as Azubah's father, and I think that I do, he and Winston Churchill's mother, Jeannette “Jenny” Jerome are descended form the same Wilcox and Smith families....
If I have all of this wrong, send me an E-mail at ....................... and tell me where I erred and I'll start looking again. . This letter will go to him and out on the net to help others.
I hate to see all the many hours of research which has been put into these questionable links. Many in the Andrus family have rushed past these links in many different directions. Before I proceed I want to have either proof of the links or DNA evidence which lets us know at least where we need to be looking. Our progenitors only had research, today we have so much more perhaps we will get this mess straightened out. Hope this helps!!! Laura Anderson paffanatic10@yahoo.com

Vermont trip 2007
15 December 2007 - 7:51:57am

Research trip short version
For this trip we had several goals!
1. separating out the Andrus (Andrews, Andress, Andros...)lines in Vermont.
This I did by calling all of the living Andrus families in Vermont in the hopes of doing DNA testing with them.

One group the Andrus name came from there mother. This line does not qualify for DNA
One group descended with the farm in Danby. We got a DNA sample on this line.(this did not match)
One group lived in Stowe. His wife was familiar with DNA so he gave a sample.(this did not match)
One knew they descended from Bildad and they were not in our area have since traced them to Rutland before they moved on so they are worth chasing.
One group from Rutland City left the state and went to Huron County, Ohio we will need to track them if we do not locate a match from the tests now in progress. .
One additional group Elihu Andrus came from Connneticut and stopped in Tinmouth Rutland County Vermont I now have a line to them they went to Canada
We are stating to seperate out the lines. The gentleman from Stowe's results are back (so are Ray and Marrill Andrus Jane Munday line) they were not a match so that eliminates that line.
2. Put Ruluf's land in Essex County on the map.
This was accomplished with the help of the Essex County assessors office. Here is an address on Google maps to that spot "Indian Rock Rd.,Wilmington, New York, United States" If you go about 1/2 way east on the loop on Indian Rock between that and highway 12 is where Ruluf's land was located. If f you go across highway 12 to the north of Fox Farm Road that is where John Smith, Azuba's father had his land.

3. Get as much information as possible into our digital library so research can be done at home.
We gleaned information from:
Vermont Historical Society in Barre town and County histories Old maps - Box of original documents on Ezra Andrus family (Danby farm) containing 420 original documents.3 days work by 3 people.
Vermont State Archives in Middlesex all Andrus and variant spelling names One day three people
Burlington Historical Society in Burlington Vermont- Andrus and Dutcher names one day.
Tinmouth City offices Andrus and Smith names especially Joseph son of Isaac of Shaftsbury
Poultney historical Society- All associated names Genealogies - Grave sites - Tax records ...
Especially Roswell and Isaac son of Isaac of Shaftsbury
Pawlet City offices - All Andrus and Dennisons land,birth, marriage and death records
Pawlet Cemetery- Descendants of Ezra Andrus and other Andrus persons
Shaftsbury Cemetery-descendants of Isaac Andrus of Shaftsbury

I know everyone wants instant results! The closest thing I have found is DNA. As we do the DNA testing we will hone in on which line we need to be working on. I can figure out whether the people traveling with us are just there by happen chance or weather they are family members. This will bring the breakthroughs!

How can you help?
I need researchers who can help put the things that we have located together. So 5 or so experienced researchers for a research committee.
We need people who have a little experience with old script to get a hold of Mike to transcribe the documents that have to do with Ruluf in New York. Mike's e-mail is he will send a digital copies of the document and you type it and send it back.

As for the actual trip, this trip did not go as planned! We had scheduled time share rooms for Ray and Fay Andrus to accompany us on the trip but at the last minute something came up and they were not available. My mother came along as a replacement. So my husband Craig, my mother La Kay M. Weber and I left on Aug 23 for Vermont. We sat in Salt Lake for 4.5 hours due to a tornado which caused the evacuation of the entire Chicago Airport which delayed us to where we got to our hotel at 3:30 am. on the 24th. By afternoon we were up and visited Rutland City archives where they were going to charge us two dollars each for copies no digital copies allowed so we decided to do the other research first and what the State Archives had for their records before we decide exactly what we need there.

On the 25th we visited with the historical Society at Poultney Vermont this was the place that dictated the timing of our trip as they are only open for the summer months. We had Bonnie Goodard and Bill Homer visit here in years past but they did not have my background in who we are traveling with or the ability to digitize the collection for us. Here because of our high tech scanner we were able to scan in about 450 pages these include a genealogy of the town as best it could be reconstructed after the records burned(This I think is why we have not gotten further on the Andrus line than we have). We also copied will extracts and the wpa project of historical documents... along with about 120 pages of things that could not be digitized( at 10cents a copy). This then becomes a research library for the family to use in our quest. We did establish that Ruluf was in Poultney by 1795 as an adult paying taxes.

After dodging falling trees and downed power lines and closed rodes, (I think the storm was following us) Saturday night we moved to Stowe which is about mid state near the State Archives in Middlesex and the State Historical Society in Barre. Here we spent Monday-Thursday in these 2 repositories and visiting with an Andrus family in that area.

In the 1950's there was a Miss Hildibrand who did research for the Andrus family. She thought it significant that there was a Ruluf Dutcher in Poultney as early as 1763. He being listed as the surveyor on two survey documents from that time( these were state records and so did not burn with the City Records). Could this be where Ruluf got his name? Could one of his daughters be Ruluf's mother? We do not know at present so we started tracking Dutchers. We located a Dutcher in Shaftsbury early on as well, Sharftsbury is where the most likely Andrus family is coming from. These people could be important in our research.


That weekend was a long one and things were to be closed on Monday so we took Friday and at our own expense we drove up to Boston (I think the Andrus research is going to take us in that direction as the New England Historical society is there) And researched on my Boston, Irish line. We figured out where they were buried and where they lived. (Believe it or not I am not an Andrus!) This was thrilling for My mother and me. By Sunday night we were back in Killington, Vermont and On Labor Day we spent the time organizing what we had located on the Andrus lines and making appointments for the next weeks research.

Tuesday we went to Tinmouth pronounced tinmuth where in about 2 hours we digitized all of the Andrus Land Birth Marriage and Death records for this town along with notes on the Cemetery. This is where Lt. John of Ipswitch's descendant Isaac of Shaftsbury's son Joseph settled or I thought it him but had no proof. Here we located land documents that proved the connection. This Joseph could be important because Roswell and Isaac two of Joseph's brothers lived in Poultney around the 1800 time frame which is when Ruluf is living there. We do not see Joseph untill he is older. He could have had children as early as when Ruluf is born. This line will be ruled out or become a primary target depending on the DNA Tests. We then went for lunch at the local Cemetery.(Only a genealogist would do that!)

Later that afternoon we went to the Burlington Historical Society where we spent a productive afternoon. The most useful thing that we located was a good document on the Dutcher's that will help in that research.

Thursday we went to see a descendant of Ezra Andrus a farm owner in Rutland County, this was our third time visiting him. After working with him on family records we got around to the sticky subject of Maple Syrup which we were buying from him and DNA testing. I was very relived to learn that he had softened on the question of having his DNA test done and we came home with a sample which is being tested now. If that matches our male family members DNA we will know out of what family we come. If not we will know what family to not trace further and to concentrate in other areas. I had prayed so hard for that sample and truly felt blessed to get what I needed from our trip.

We then made a stop at Pawlet and again in a couple of hours were able to copy the Andrus family records out of that Town hall. Here we found several things that were of interest. Many cousins on the John of Ipswitch line settled here, it is not far from Poultney and Wells where other Andrus family members are living at that time. We also located where Daniel Dennison a uncle of John Dennison(John moved to Ohio with Ruluf) was selling land to an Andrus family member .

This about sums up our trip. I am anxiously awaiting the DNA test results! Laura

Would the real Ruluf please stand up!
15 December 2007 - 7:42:46am

Here is an E mail I got that I thought many of you would be interested in! Laura

Dear Laura,

I googled Ruluf Andress to see what information was out there. It appears to me that the best sites are the ones that have your name attached to them. I do have a question or two and I'm betting you probably know the answer.

Some sites list Joseph Andrus and Sybil Andrews as Ruluf's parents. Others list Ruluf Andrus Sr. and Azuba White. Still others indicate no parentage can be found. Which one do you think it is?

Also, was young Ruluf the "Ruluf Andrus" placed under the Guardian Bond or not? One site says no with 99% surety, but another says that was before you knew the guarantor of the bond was Sybil's brother-in-law. Of course, if Sybil is not Ruluf's mother, the whole issue is solved.

Thanks for all the information you have posted, not only on Ruluf and his family, but also on Milo and his numerous wives as well. With Milo having the 4th largest family in the LDS church, there are many people who are indebted to you -- including me! (Wife #1 Abigail Jane Daley through daughter Mary Jane)

Thanks for your help with these questions. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

Stefenee Hymas


Hello and glad to meet someone who is studying the issue. I believe there is a Rulufand that he probably is the son of Sybil and guardian bonded to Joseph Johnson but I see absolutely no evidence that any of that group ever met any of our group.

I have traced Ruluf to a logical family but as the records in Poultney burned and therefore we have no evidence we are turning to a Y-chromosome test from one of the known descendants and are awaiting the results from that. If that is a match then we know which family to study. (That was not a match so I am now turning to other families in the area Elihu, Jahiel, Bildad...) The Sybil theory came from the finding of the Guardian bond and went back from there the people even voted on it being there line. As if that changed anything.

The Ruluf and Azuba White theory was originally purposed by a grandaughter of Ruluf through Carlo. I am still confused by that one as anyone who put the dates together would know it could not work. There is no Ruluf Andrus coming in to the country at the time he was supposed to, he never shows up in a single record anywhere. I have put that one on a back burner until something leads me in that direction.

At this point all I can say is that in the past all people could do is guess. Now we can know 100% when we get into the correct line. and for us that day is coming soon I hope.

Bye for now! Laura

2006 fall vermont trip
8 December 2007 - 5:48:19am

report to Merril
2006 October

We took Craig Laura and Andrea Andrus (Jane Munday line) and flew the red eye to Vermont.

The first day
Picked our Alamo rental car up for the week and traveled across Lake Champlain to Essex County stopping at the Elizabethtown/ Essex County Historical Society where we were told the librarian was to be out till the 20th of September. (no access to the library while she was gone for anyone). We left her a list of names we were most interested in and she sent a notice saying that she had no information. (Funny thing is they are mentioned in the official printed history) I need to return and spend a day in their library.

We then went to Keen established while Uriah Hancock lived there the township of Keen was where Uriah Hancock and James Smith were living in 1810 census. All they had from that time period was a list of headstone inscriptions which we took pictures of. Document pages 15

Day 2 we went to the Essex County Court house, to search the Court of common pleas records and take pictures of the documents (we were looking for the people listed on the last page of this document). Most of the documents were still for Ruluf. He seemed to be in court more than any other person. We located 214 document pages so about 100 original documents. That evening we drove through Jay, upper Jay and into Lake Placid for dinner.

Day 3 more of the same we searched all day in boxes 4 inches wide by 12 inches tall by about 20 inches deep. All we knew was that a document was somewhere in this box when the index was made. No index was done as to where in the box it was so you check all documents often locating more documents on Ruluf than the ledger of documents which was done by Stevenson for the family organization in the 1970's listed. This information did not get followed up on and I did not locate this document until Hyrum gave me the boxes just a month or so ago .
While we were searching for Ruluf we were paying attention to the other names of interest in the boxes. ( I hope we got them all because I do not ever care to see another one of those boxes).
Andrea and Craig searched all day as I filmed about a thousand pictures often 3 or 4 of the same thing to make sure we got one that was legible. When they were all culled down we have 260 pictures from this day.
We started this about 8:30 - 5:00 (they had to kick us out) Friday leaving some of the documents for the other families un-filmed as we were running out of time. We had a 5:30 appointment with Amy Shalton an LDS Member who is a select women in AuSable forks Jay Township. Here we did not locate much her records were to late. (Although we need to go back and re-film some from the first trip the next time that I go) Amy took us out and tried to locate the original land that Ruluf owned to no avail. We had lunch at 9:00 that night as we had been to busy to eat.

Day 4 We were exhausted after no sleep and sharing a room with Craig's cousin. I did some inputing of people on Ezra Andrus line in the a.m., we did some area familurization and went over to Sharon Vermont to the Prophet's birthplace.

Day 5 We went to Rutland for church and I spent Sunday school with the computer trying to get Otis Andrus family right. After church we went and visited Otis and Kathleen Andrus in Danby. They let us make copies of the cemetery map for the Andrus family. Otis is the superintendent of the cemetery of Pawlet. He took us out to the Cemetery and walked us around helping us to locate the headstones for his family and the other Andrus' on the map. He did promise to read the information that I would send him on genetic testing. I am hopeful that someday we will receive information on this line from Otis or someone else to prove whether or not we are related. We took 48 pictures of headstones and cem maps in Pawlet and another 24 in Poltney.


Day 6 we drove from Killington Vermont to Baare to the historical society just to find out they are not open to the public that day. They suggested either the State Archives or the the State Secretary of State office for something called the Nims index. We went to the state Capital building to see it and felt we needed to stop at the Secretary of states office. Here we learned that the state was ran by petition not by drawing up bills as we do today. So you have a census every time they have something come up.
They used these for Roads, Churches, Schools. Funding, Township creation or changing borders. lots of Petitions. A lady a long time ago indexes every name on every petition and put them in an orderly filing system here we filmed 95 documents. They will tell us who lived in which Vermont town near Ruluf at which time and about when they moved in and out All we now need to do is file them.

We still had some time left over so we went to Wilmington the place that I have always heard you had to go to as they had All the town records. Well they have about the same thing that the library has all on film. We left from there to go get close enough to the Air port to be on a 6:am flight so we could get out of New York by 10:00 p.m. and get home only 27 hours after we got up in the morning. The free flights are cheep but they lost us 2 days of research along the way.
I need people to do the job of assigning out the documents that we have and transcribing them. This is time consuming and until it is done we will not know what we have. We have from this trip alone about 700 pages of documents that need working with. If you know of any one to do typing and anyone to assign them out to people and get them back from them it would be helpful! I see what I have been doing as more a research library than a completed work. We do not all need to go to Vermont to locate these records they can be shared anywhere in the world if we put them out in the right format! Laura
I hope to be able to get back in the spring for another research trip to New York and Vermont and take Ray and Fay with us this time! Laura

well that's all for now

This was the list I was working off of on this trip!

Places of interest

Jay, Ausable Forks, Keen, Elizabeth town New York.
Vermont Pawlet, Poltney, Rutland County in general.

People of interest in New York

Any :Andrus, Andrews or Andress especialy in the towns mentioned
Ebenezer, Jehiel, Benjamin

Abbott, Squire Justin Orland, Eli

Bliss, Daniel (Bishop)

Buckley Leonard

Dennison, John, Daniel,

Durand, James, Simeon, Edward, Marari

Hancock, Uriah, Amasa, Abner, Truman

Holcomb Almond, Zelotes Orlando, Obed

Leonard Calvin, Levi, Nathan

Morse Seth

Page, John, Ebenezer, Philander. Ansel, Ephriam, Daniel

Parker, Samuel

Powers, Simeon, Joseph, Festus, Dennis

Pratt Jared, Obadiah, Christopher

Root, Joseph

Shepard
Philemon

Smith John and James or any in Jay, Keen, Elizabeth town Daniel, David, Smith
Charles, Enoch, Job C, Joseph, Hyat, Star, Eliuah, Samuel, John the tanner, John the taylor

Squire, Lumen, Edward, Justis, Whitney, Thomas S 1796 Asa 1764

Stedman Almeron, Ebenezer, Justus, Thomas

Swift Ephriam,, Moses

Reunion of the Milo Andrus family June 2007
12 October 2007 - 2:00:32pm

Oct 6 2007

A couple of finish up things from the reunion.

I spent months gathering and putting together a picture/history/book CD on the Andrus family Traveling from Idaho to Southern and Northern California. Among other things I located a picture never before seen of Milo at a younger age. (At the DUP you pay 8 dollars for one picture) this CD has literally 100's of pictures most of which will be new to people. It also supplys digital pictures of the pictures used in the Andrus Recorders. It has Books, Family Group records, Histories, Diaries and Documents. This is important as far as doing research or even knowing Milo and his wives (See Play under the Milo File). This CD is an effort to give each of you the benefit of the years I have put into gathering things on this project so no one will have to start where I did. The money collected goes to research expenses for the family. The cost is $10 dollars plus 3$ shipping and handling

We had a great turn out at the Bowery at this is the place monument for the play and to see the picture display (made from the CD mentioned above. But many of you could not be there. I had my brother in law record the play and he has made it into a CD for you all. Milo and his wives readers theater which was preformed at the Family Reunion in 2007 was an amazing production, every detail is documented with sourceing. If you want to know Milo and his wives this is a CD is a must. It would make a wonderful family home evening or an activity the next time your branch of the Andrus family gets together. It too is $ 10 plus 3$ shipping and handling. Order these through Don Andrus secretary treasurer at Perry Utah